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my (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Friday, April 02 @ 23:32:53 CST
Diablos ...............

Cuando emepeze con Linux, prove muchos programas p2p, ..... ninguno me convencio como el xMule,...... con el baje mi primer mp3 en un programa p2p en linux. Ya que por X´s razones no funcionaban los demas programas.



Me llena de tristesa esta noticia, y no solo esto si no ver como poco a poco a un programador gasta su tiempo, esfuerzo, por un programa.
Ademas ver como convive con su grupo buscando errores, corrigiendolos, para que las dema usuarios puedan usar el programa.

La competencia existe
La competencia siempre existira, pero a costo de que, para ganar?????......

aprovechandose de errores ? , mentiras?


Pero estamos hablando de software libre osea que ganan alguien haciendo da?o.si solo por desarrollarlo no les pagan.

Ok. ganan popularidad, donaciones, que la gente se interesa. Pero a que costo pisar gente ?.

no se la otra version de la causa del cierre. Pero lo que si se es que alguien esta sufriendo, de como varios a?os de desarrollo se van por la borda.
Cuando alguien esta llenando una bolsa de piedritas y pone tantas piedritas en algun momento la bolsa se rompe.

Yo creo ke hopeSeekr ha optado por lo sano, y su bolsa se ah roto................

Ahora ya no tendra que estar preocupado por muchas cosas, ya no tendra pendiente por algo. Ya podra cerrar los ojos, y descansar y sin estar pensando en el futuro.

good bye xmule

atte.
zodman un usuario que entra a #xmule y usa el xmule envez del amule

www.soyel.vicio.org


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Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 02:07:05 CST
RIGHT ABOUT TIME!
you're one helpless crazy sonuvabitch, really. get a life. get another degree or something, learn esperanto.
you are sick.



Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 02:31:01 CST
i really don't like to read that! i really like(d) xmule (and i've never heard of amule yet...but their website sucks)

i don't know what happened between you and amule...but it's really unfortunate that you quit - but you should do what you think is the best (for you)...

regards
red_alert

ps: sorry about my not-so-good-english ;)



Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 02:45:47 CST
I really don't know the history of xmule/amule life and their devs relations (and DO NOT want to learn them either) but I really do feel sorry that the relations between the devs of 2 competitive projects like xmule & amule became like "that".

I still thinks that having two competitors even in open source softwares is a good thing because it creates some emulation between the devs and that's good for both...



Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 1)
by Crocodil on Saturday, April 03 @ 02:52:37 CST
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;-( ;-( ;-( ;-( ;-( ;-( ;-( ;-( ;-( ;-( ;-( ;-( ;-( ;-( ;-( ;-( ;-( ;-(

I don't know what to say... :-(
I've started using xMule less than a month ago and I simply love it. And yes, I did try aMule and didn't like it, not even a tiny bit.

I too don't understand their popularity... Not even considering their code stealing (I don't know much about that) and personal behavior (constant trolling), aMule isn't better than xMule in ANY aspect, to most users they're almost identical (hmm, let me guess why...). As I said I very much prefer xMule.

I can't blame you HopeSeekr for your decision... So many obstacles - another person would quit long ago :(

Unfortunatelly I can't support xMule financially :( I'm struggling to pay for my studies and don't have a job yet :(

I study informatics and I was thinking about trying to help developing xMule but after a brief glance at the code I pretty much got discouraged :( I'm not very good at Object Oriented Programming and I will have to work on it.

I really hope that you'll get better HopeSeekr and that xMule isn't condemned for death :(

Best regards,

Crocodil.



Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 03:02:33 CST
NO NO NO NO NO!!!
The life is not that bad! !! Realy I know!



Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 03:03:27 CST
i'm Hetfield...your *enemy*

please and i say please don't give up.
why you said amule team won?

i don't agree. opensource lost today. when a project dies, community lose a project.
The reality is that xmule has not be updated (fro really..) for lots of time. Probably you cared too much amule businness and lost so much time talkining about it instead of coding.

but...today amule has not won.
i'm sad cause the competition with xmule has been very interesting. I would have seen a more polite competition...yes..

not blaming and flaming.
Only clients competition.
However lots of users still use xmule, instead of the *victorius* amule.

please come back unthesis. don't give up.

sincere post. don't think about shit.



Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 1)
by Xaignar on Saturday, April 03 @ 03:15:34 CST
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I'm sorry to hear that you have decided to stop working on xMule, as I personally believe that both projects (xMule and aMule) could have gained a lot from competing against each other and through that, the users would have gained. But hopefully the xMule project won't fade in your absence, something which I'm sure that the remaining devs will work to avoid.

It is also sad to see how much grief the bad blood between the two projects have caused on both sides of the fence, now with your resignation as a result... Still, I wish you good luck in the future, both offline and online.

Cheers,
Xaignar -- another aMule dev



Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 03:42:27 CST
april fools...



Re: I quit! YAY!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 04:11:25 CST
Hi. First I'd like to say that unfortunantly I am in no position to help you. I study computers in an university (I can't donate money because I'm from Portugal. Try reading a bit of this country and you'll know what I'm talking about) and I know how to program but I only know those basic thing like making loops and reading/writing on files and stuff. If I could, it would be an honour to participate in a project like xMule because it's something that everybody uses. Second, if there are people using xMule it's because they like it, therefore, to them its better then aMule. Third, are they steeling your code? Well, you can't do anything about it because it's open source but the best way to prove that you are stronger then they are is to continue writing and improving xMule. You are one, they are many. Steel their code too. Fourth, the best way to attack is to get a good defence. Stop saying that aMule team is this or that. If someone asks, say that they are good. But prove through actions that you can be better or not. Fifth, don't ever, ever put xMule over your personal life. Think of it as a hobby. Try to get your life in a stable position and then start xMule. Sixth, don't do more than you can. You need a better server, right? Well, if you can't get one, too bad for us. Don't harm yourself because of us. Seventh, tell me how to get material to learn programming things like xMule and you'll have my full support to develop it.
Take some vacations but, don't give up...
Sorry for my bad english...
Best regards, HybrisPT!



Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 04:34:35 CST
I forgot to say one thing. This is for both, xMule and aMule... STOP making unfair competition... If you noticed, I didn't said that I liked xMule more than aMule... I'm only using Linux for one week or so... So I don't know wich one is better but, as I said earlier, I'm willing to help hopesekr to keep this project alive. But always, always with fair competition. And in those terms, programming is a lot of fun...
HybrisPT



Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 05:03:36 CST
u can't even now stop to lie, heh.

well, 1 week and ur back again ? always the same shit to get more popularity.

aMule doesn't steal your buggy code Ted,, we are able to code and work with eMule devs, u not ..

bye, i hope for always



Sight.... (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 06:25:54 CST
When I started working on xMule, we had a great comunity. Now, on aMule, we have an even bigger and nice team and users supporting. But, in any way, it's of course bad to lose an opensource project.

It's your decision and, yes, it would be bether for your health, you need a break from all this, ted, really.

A proof of that is you can't stop flaming about aMule even on that post. Saying we copy code( we do not, xMule code has the same (c) than when forked, and no single bit of code from xMle since I'm there), saying you took code from amule giving credit to it (which is FALSE, because all the endian code to work on Mac is taken from amule and not a single bit of code has credit given to aMule and the notebooks, which made us able to get rid of pure GTK code, have my (c) but you removed the (c) aMule Team).

We have not won neither we had defamed you except when you do like this: posting shit about aMule at ANY chance, even now. You insult amule, you insult amule developers, and you lie about xMule and aMule. You even flame about the look of the forums/webpage!!


You didn't try to make peace with aMule 6 times: you roughtly came to tell us how stupid we are, and that we should let you do the core and we can stick to the GUI. A team of 20 people developing a GUI while you do the core. There's even a poll on that were aMule devs and users told you... well, to leave us alone.


And that's what we were requesting for MONTHS. To leave us alone, ted PLEASE. on #wxwidgets (former #wxwindows), everytime you join... flame aMule and me. on #amule, you joined, changed topic do assholes, insulted us... etc. on our forums, you also insult us. On the SF support requests where you have NOTHING to do, you insult us. on your forum, you first moderate us so we cannot reply, and then lie about us. On your changelogs, you insult us.


so, do as you like with xMule development. but LEAVE US ALONE, PLEASE.



Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 07:29:29 CST
Listen... Alll of you! I dont quite know about Emule or another companise but for some reason a guy who i also know nothing about has lost quite alot and all he wanted was support for Xmule! I dont pretend to understand all this but if it means that i can help get rid of an evil comapny then so be it. it may be late but i am trying to drum up support for you my friend, i will look up some more on this and see what im up against! Dont loose faith. And dont end yourself because of this. KEEP GOING! Im behind you!


Kyle Masters



Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 08:24:40 CST
I'm so sorry you quit.
I've been using xmule for the last 3 moths and I really like it.

But I underestand you must care about yourself and if developing xmule produces you so much pain you have taken the right decission.


I hope you get better,
jaume



Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 1)
by HopeSeekr on Saturday, April 03 @ 09:17:41 CST
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example:

I post a bug report for aMule, because I was viewing their code and i decided to help them out...it's the opensource way, you know? (viewing isn't the same as using but o well).

First i get:
[kry] As usual, you lie. STFU and stick to your client.

who then proceeds to join #xmule and does much the same.

Then some anonymous dev says "It will be reviewed", then deltahf flames me on the SourceForge request of the same ticket (cuz i wasn't for sure *where* to post it). Then another anonymous dev announces they have accepted it, while saying i was 'flaming them'. I just don't see how submitting a bug fix is a flame, but maybe others do.

http://developer.berlios.de/bugs/?func=detailbug&bug_id=1749&group_id=1296

Still, let's all chant the dogma "HopeSeekr is a terrorist, HopeSeekr is a terrorist", then you'll be on the "one side of the truth" as kry put it in an above comment :-)

Cheers,
Hope



keep it professional (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 12:26:46 CST
If the boards & IRC are such a distraction then just drop them, and-or /ignore the bastards.
More coding less flaming, I say !!!
Compared to your "adventures" in real life, this xmule-vs-amule crap should be a piece of cake, c'mon!!



Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 16:01:06 CST
Hell, this whole thing is a soap opera. It's like two gangs are figting over a f.cking apple in an apple forest. I don't really care who is responsible for steeling code. These are GPL projects. The whole purpose to make things better.

Development was supposed to be fun. Grow up and get over with your egos, both side! Competition is always good, if both side quits being nasty kids. I don't really blame anybody specific. I blame *every* single developer who is flaming and who is just keeping silent about this fuss. There should be somebody with some sense!

It is always hard to see whos fault it is, as there is always two sides of the story. And it doesn't matter in the end if you have a good project. If ppl don't use yours, make it better.

HopeSeekr it is your life and it is your decision. But in the end we all loose if you quit. You should appreciate some other group is developing based on your code. But a suggestion, if you want to continue just stop wasing time on flaming. It really doesn't matter what you say, or do. Just prove that xMule is better by making it better. And don't forget, ppl don't like flaming guys. And stop asking money everytime. Let the ppl decide.



Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 17:05:30 CST
I'm sorry to read that it has gone that far (again).

Well, sometimes things like this happen. Nobody likes to get insulted and flamed by others, especially not devs about code.

Hopefully, the other devs, admins, moderators and users of the xmule project will carry on developing and supporting the client as there seems to have been some major improvements in the last months.

It would be a unfortunate lost to the community if they won't.

And if it's true that time heals wounds, both projects might be able to open their CVS, again, some day. A friendly and respectful competition has always been the best for Free Software.

Ted, you hopefully find a way to master your personality one day to be able to join a community peacefully even if not everybody shares your opinion. Nobody can be expected to do everything equally well, and I think the community regards your efforts for xmule and your coding abilities.

seneca



Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 20:07:14 CST
I started out on eMule for Windows - nice client and vastly better than the original eDonkey rubbish. But as I was always wishing to move towards the Linux side of things, I wanted, obviously, a Linux client. I was fortunate and lucky enough to discover xMule.

I had heard stuff about lMule, but seem to recall just having problems getting it to compile. xMule worked. It was good. I was happy. I downloaded a lot of shit.

And then I bought a Mac, which seems reasonable enough, and, better still, the Mac, according to xMule's very logo, is supported. Would it compile? Would it fuck.

At this point, some might point out that I should bloody well fix it myself - I must apologise, but I am one of those types that coders find incredibly annoying - a "user." Believe me, if I could code, I would be pitching in.

And not too much later, we get all this melodromatic crap from unThesis. First time it may have been valid, if a little over the top, but it was far too theatrical. Dude, if you really are considering a career move, try the stage - you are either totally insane or just have an arty mind (I hope the latter).

But damnit, xMule returns, still with the Apple in the xMule logo and still not working. I start to see flames about how this aMule client is so shit and how they steal so much code. You know what? I decided to give it a go. Last time I tried, it didn't work. But this time, after Stage Exit II, I am determined to make it work. From the comments, it seems plain that the aMule lot merely got a clue - they were just trying to escape a crazy and perhaps half-assed coder who, to be frank, needs to grow up.

I'm sorry to rant, but it's childish pettiness that really damages the reputation of open source. Leave the coding world be, dear - you belong somewhere else.



Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 20:52:42 CST
Everytime I find a post by this guy saying he quits of he has problems he's requesting for money.... sucks



Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 1)
by HopeSeekr on Saturday, April 03 @ 22:15:46 CST
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[quote]Ted, you hopefully find a way to master your personality one day to be able to join a community peacefully even if not everybody shares your opinion. Nobody can be expected to do everything equally well, and I think the community regards your efforts for xmule and your coding abilities.

seneca
[/quote]

um...deltaHF and kry constantly tell me I need to see a doctor ... it's on the front page of amule.org right now.

When it comes to being mean-spirited and down-right destructive, they are far more vociferous than myself.

Does *any*one* want to point out a time where i have hurt kry as much as he has hurt me? Besides...why must they flame on my very last post?



Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Sunday, April 04 @ 01:43:18 CST
Hey,

I'm not a new user of xMule and have used both aMule and xMule. And for sure the last aMule version corrupted all my downloads. But that left out of the game

I think HopeSeekr, you should first live _your life_ and make sure that everything in your life and with your friends and family is okay and then, if everything is okay, you can spend left-over time on opensource projects. I feel you have not done that and everybody really should do that. Real life before life online. Humans are social beings, we need friends and family and company. When you got that an a steady, stable life, go on programming.

Just my point-of-view but I think everyone should really consider this valuable information.



FLAMEZZZZZZZZ (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Sunday, April 04 @ 04:09:15 CDT
Guys, this is no way to be talking to each other. I hope you're at least enjoying yourself with the flames, but don't waste your time with it... ;)



Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 1)
by rven on Sunday, April 04 @ 11:49:06 CDT
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Hope, im with u when u say that it might be anoying like hell to have the whole amule vs xmule shit. But listen to ppl here in the forum.... fuck amule. Let them post all they want about you! Who gives a fuck anyway.... And dont tell me that u give up becouse of some ass who tells u that u crashed amule.org. Let him believe whatever he wants to... Thats his problem!!
Anyway, re-think it all, and come up with a way of doing stuff without all the bs.
Well, hope, im here if u want to think this over... and im sure there r ppl who r willing to help u out with the support and u just get down to coding. Think about it!!

If you want to code, do so!!! and let someone else worry about the rest of the shit. Anyway, gtg so Hope 2 hear from u again!! RvEN



Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Monday, April 05 @ 14:00:25 CDT
tztztztztztz
xmule suckssss
amule rulzzzzzz




Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Monday, April 05 @ 14:23:07 CDT
ok, It's the better thing you can do. I know what did you do. 'cos the best election is a quick walk-away. we don't want you in the p2p-dev-scene. have fun with your life theo.



Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Monday, April 05 @ 15:52:15 CDT
Life has lot of secrets, maybe you will explore a new one ,better than xMule :)

No worries, life is so simple to worry about a project



this has just gone too far... (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Monday, April 05 @ 18:29:53 CDT
Guys, this is just going too far...

to you amule devs = last time i heard things like doing "reply all" to deliver a personal message was really rude.
isn't this the xmule website ? why do you even care what he says about amule here ? do you intend to roam in every forum of the entire web to aggressively defend your client ?
come on! would you go to some guys house on the other side of town to tell him in front of his family to stop talking about you ??? it doesn't matter whether he's right or wrong, he's free to have an opinion. And as long as it's happening there, you're the ones intruding.

to you unthesis : seems to me you're doing the right thing. There are much better things to do with your time than fighting on a virtual scene. Especially if it doesn't make you happy.
You're obviously depressed. You shouldn't feel hurt by someone's post ! a grenade that blows your leg hurts. Cancer hurts. But flaming ? Go find real people and make real friends. You need a bit of offline fun in your life, dude ! cheer up!

to all the flamers : honestly, you're all wasting your time. And not only yours but ours too.
If don't like somebody or something - unthesis, kry, amule, xmule, the pope - then ignore him, or at least keep it private. More importantly, don't annoy everybody with your constant fighting. when you adress a community, do it to bring some useful contribution. Otherwise, go back to coding your project, care about your users and your community. Do your best and have fun. cuz this is what its all about. Fun !

- peace



Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Thursday, April 08 @ 03:48:54 CDT
xMule is a v. good project.
What i want to say is that all the post with "amule .." should be deleted because it is an advertising, and they shouldn't make it on your website, with your money.
For those people who don't like the xMule - Pls. go away ! Nobody forcing you to use it. I like xMule very much and i'm gonna used!

Maybe some people who don't like p2p wants to destroy the ed2k network. And they starting with a new project that can be controled by them.

Don't bother reading their shit.

You see that a lot of people are visiting you website and are interested by new releases.
Not all know to compile or use the forums, but they use xMule from rpms. Trust me I know a lot of people.

Pls. continue to work at this project. I don't want to hear anything about aMule. I like xMule.

Sorry for my english, and hope you continue to develop xMule ! Good Day !



Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Sunday, April 11 @ 23:52:36 CDT
a "quit". the 7. one?
ppl getting tired of it.. write better a book. i'll buy it then, for sure.



Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 1)
by ning116173 on Thursday, July 22 @ 10:39:58 CDT
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what the fuck are the #amules doing!
I think some of them are really bad guys. You should ignore their words.They're not true obviously, for these few men just want to beat you down.



Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 1)
by egr on Tuesday, August 03 @ 08:08:25 CDT
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WTF? I just started to use xMule, never heard of aMule before
and now you're telling me that it is over?

bullshit, I don't belive it



I KNOW!!! (Score: 1)
by ubikas on Monday, January 17 @ 09:29:22 CST
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And I SAY thanks again. KEEP IT AS IT IS... People who care will find the TRUTH in your words. I quit xMule, just becouse it is not mature yet;(

I know... now, the OTHER SIDE.
AND THANKS,
for that