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xMule Tutorials: I quit! YAY~!!!!
Posted by HopeSeekr on Friday, April 02 @ 22:21:57 CST
Contributed by HopeSeekr

i quit at xmule *please* read below :-(

[00:01:26] aprilfool: you and your friends from amule have won ! [00:01:30] aprilfool, what the fuck is your business?! [00:01:39] HopeSeekr: quits developing xmule [00:01:41] i am [00:01:43] i have [00:01:58] i can't stand this shit [00:02:00] it ruins my life [00:02:02] literally The only real way to get rid of an opensource project that competes against you is to break the heart of that project's main developer. aMule devs *and* users have admirably done this. Ya, i can't stand this shit. aMule people have "won". I am tired of being ceaselessly and mercilessly defamed by them :-( You guys that are still here, you either are dirt poor or don't relaly give a shit either, cuz we get no support. I am too mentally unstable (read: chronically depressed) and have gone through way too much in the last 3 months (jail, losing the love of my life, watching xmule die, losing my job, losing my house, losing all my money) to keep up with their incessant attacks, and the fact that users continaully support htem far more in spite. xMule.org will expire on May 23 and i have no plans to renew it....funny how it has been just over a year since i started at LMule. Thanks to the wonderful people in #xmule i've managed to keep up my spirits daily against these aMule capers, but no more, i'm tired, broke, and you definately do not support it (their forums are more active in 3 months than xmule's in a year, for instance). I know Avi in particular will be disappointed at this, but he and every one in #xmule will realize how much these constant wars with aMule hurt me physically emotionally and spiritually. I have attempted to make peace with them 6 times in the past...each time different amule users flame me saying how they 'hate' me when i don't even know who they are. I didn't start this to be hated :-( so i'm no longer going to develop xmule, i might still help outin the forums, but face it, they're dead. aMule's 3month-old forums (which look a lot worse than xmule's) have more posts than xMule's 11 month-old ones. That means they should be an exmplae for you. 1.8.0 is the most stable ed2k client i have ever used. You really should try it :-( Hopefully upload will release it later this week. Avi, i'm sorry for doing this before you left :-( You were the only one to ever support me in aMule forums...I appreciate that more than you'll ever know. ::cries:: I can personally say i would rather be behind bars right now than have to continue dealing with Kry and watching users love him. If you support aMule you supoprt companies that make cheap products via sweatshops (e.g. you don't care how they get thier code or how they hurt others to get it). I spent over $900 of my own money on xMule over the last year. Fortunately $300 in donations came in in the month of September. Thanks for that :-) but xmule is clearly a loser on all fronts for me, so i'm out. sincerely,
un-thesis PS. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE all comments *here*...I willl not read amule.org at all, so i want *all* flames here. Nothing will be censored, or deleted, you have my word. Now's your final chance to gloat over my demise :-)


 
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my (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Friday, April 02 @ 23:32:53 CST
Diablos ...............

Cuando emepeze con Linux, prove muchos programas p2p, ..... ninguno me convencio como el xMule,...... con el baje mi primer mp3 en un programa p2p en linux. Ya que por X´s razones no funcionaban los demas programas.



Me llena de tristesa esta noticia, y no solo esto si no ver como poco a poco a un programador gasta su tiempo, esfuerzo, por un programa.
Ademas ver como convive con su grupo buscando errores, corrigiendolos, para que las dema usuarios puedan usar el programa.

La competencia existe
La competencia siempre existira, pero a costo de que, para ganar?????......

aprovechandose de errores ? , mentiras?


Pero estamos hablando de software libre osea que ganan alguien haciendo da?o.si solo por desarrollarlo no les pagan.

Ok. ganan popularidad, donaciones, que la gente se interesa. Pero a que costo pisar gente ?.

no se la otra version de la causa del cierre. Pero lo que si se es que alguien esta sufriendo, de como varios a?os de desarrollo se van por la borda.
Cuando alguien esta llenando una bolsa de piedritas y pone tantas piedritas en algun momento la bolsa se rompe.

Yo creo ke hopeSeekr ha optado por lo sano, y su bolsa se ah roto................

Ahora ya no tendra que estar preocupado por muchas cosas, ya no tendra pendiente por algo. Ya podra cerrar los ojos, y descansar y sin estar pensando en el futuro.

good bye xmule

atte.
zodman un usuario que entra a #xmule y usa el xmule envez del amule

www.soyel.vicio.org



Re: my (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 12:53:49 CST
No tienes ni idea, tio xD aMule no esta haciendo da?o a xMule es AL REVES, y cuando aMule se defiende, a hopeseekr le jode. asi es.

La unica persona que pisa a otros es el. sino mirate www.amule.org el ataque DoS que les meti?.


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Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 02:07:05 CST
RIGHT ABOUT TIME!
you're one helpless crazy sonuvabitch, really. get a life. get another degree or something, learn esperanto.
you are sick.



Re: RIGHT ABOUT TIME! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 02:33:48 CST
go and suck some dicks, motherfucking idiot! the world would be a better place without you shit eater...


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Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 04:29:05 CST
just look in the mirror fucking asscunt


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Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 07:35:50 CST
You are one evil piece of fucking trash you cunt! Bet you slipped out your mothers ass crack you piece of destended rectom!


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Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 1)
by Pompei2 on Saturday, July 10 @ 10:43:47 CDT
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Hey you fucking aMule users who commented this you really suck !
Good devs don't say things like these, you can't be something else then rubbish !


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Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 02:31:01 CST
i really don't like to read that! i really like(d) xmule (and i've never heard of amule yet...but their website sucks)

i don't know what happened between you and amule...but it's really unfortunate that you quit - but you should do what you think is the best (for you)...

regards
red_alert

ps: sorry about my not-so-good-english ;)




Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 02:45:47 CST
I really don't know the history of xmule/amule life and their devs relations (and DO NOT want to learn them either) but I really do feel sorry that the relations between the devs of 2 competitive projects like xmule & amule became like "that".

I still thinks that having two competitors even in open source softwares is a good thing because it creates some emulation between the devs and that's good for both...




Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 1)
by Crocodil on Saturday, April 03 @ 02:52:37 CST
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;-( ;-( ;-( ;-( ;-( ;-( ;-( ;-( ;-( ;-( ;-( ;-( ;-( ;-( ;-( ;-( ;-( ;-(

I don't know what to say... :-(
I've started using xMule less than a month ago and I simply love it. And yes, I did try aMule and didn't like it, not even a tiny bit.

I too don't understand their popularity... Not even considering their code stealing (I don't know much about that) and personal behavior (constant trolling), aMule isn't better than xMule in ANY aspect, to most users they're almost identical (hmm, let me guess why...). As I said I very much prefer xMule.

I can't blame you HopeSeekr for your decision... So many obstacles - another person would quit long ago :(

Unfortunatelly I can't support xMule financially :( I'm struggling to pay for my studies and don't have a job yet :(

I study informatics and I was thinking about trying to help developing xMule but after a brief glance at the code I pretty much got discouraged :( I'm not very good at Object Oriented Programming and I will have to work on it.

I really hope that you'll get better HopeSeekr and that xMule isn't condemned for death :(

Best regards,

Crocodil.




Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 03:02:33 CST
NO NO NO NO NO!!!
The life is not that bad! !! Realy I know!




Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 03:03:27 CST
i'm Hetfield...your *enemy*

please and i say please don't give up.
why you said amule team won?

i don't agree. opensource lost today. when a project dies, community lose a project.
The reality is that xmule has not be updated (fro really..) for lots of time. Probably you cared too much amule businness and lost so much time talkining about it instead of coding.

but...today amule has not won.
i'm sad cause the competition with xmule has been very interesting. I would have seen a more polite competition...yes..

not blaming and flaming.
Only clients competition.
However lots of users still use xmule, instead of the *victorius* amule.

please come back unthesis. don't give up.

sincere post. don't think about shit.



Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 03:04:57 CST
ops...i forgot.

don't say it's amule fault.
please...at least @ the end...

everyone knows it's not like that

good luck again.


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Re: please don't say it is amules fault (Score: 1)
by plaenky on Saturday, April 03 @ 06:36:31 CST
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The first and the third line from the IRC-Log in HopeSeekrs post are from me, and seems somewhat like taken out of the context.
Someone with the nick Aprilsfool joined #xmule and started flameing Hopeseekr as soon as he showed up. Aprilsfool post a link to the amule forum and telling us a weird story that Hopeseekr is guilty that amule.org was down. As a revenge this guy starts right when he was in our channel a ddos-attack against xmule.org. And this was the final reason why Hopeseekr decides to quit development.
Unfortunality the redirection link on amule.org guides to itself, but as soon as this is fixed i will have a look at the page to find out what story will be told there. And find out if it can be said that is it amules fault, or not.
damm it, english gramatic is hard


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Re: please don't say it is amules fault (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 07:40:36 CST
Kry here.


Ted did 'acidentally' wget aMule's website for 5 full days, making the forums slow and the amule.org webspace provider shut down it once. Ted has the 11% of the total bytes downloaded from amule.org. I have the 0.9%. So think about it.

plaenky, I know you're a xMule developer so you had been 'poisoned' by Ted's of Run's statement of amule copying code, etc,etc. You can tell them to take proofs of what they say about aMule, or you can also ask me to show you the code diffs of the opposite, or all the flaming Ted is doing EVERYWHERE about aMule. Of course I'm not saying you're stupid or anything, but you only know one side of the truth, and it's a wicked side.

Please think about it.


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Re: 'poisoned' by Ted' or Run's statement (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 14:18:33 CST
No, I am not poisend by anyone. I have found my own point of view, before I decided to help xmules development.The major reasons for this was that xmule crashes not as often as amule on my really old Hardware. And it looks that amule has enouht developers.
And I be only boored by this Copy-discusion, thats why you never heard a statement about it from me. It's under GPL, isn't it ? So it can be copyd and used by anyone.

Nice, i can reach amule.org again. :-)
Of course that Hopeseekr starts his wget script was terribly wrong, and even he realizes and pointing out (on #xmule) that it was a big mistake to do this.
Well, on amule.org you write about this story 'on the front page' and using also out of the context lines of #xmule and this looks to me (like some things before) that amule get some of his popularity by flaming the bad guy.
Anyway I can also understand that you are not amused by the story, so it is clear that you have to point it out.
But there is a difference between downloading from a side, which is also legal if you do it again and again and the ddos attacks some people doing the whole day, what is in fact criminal. And well I must say this seems to be inspirated by the post on your Webside. So please, if you don't like to remove/replace it, add a line telling the people not to do ddos-attacks against anyone.
(in a hurry now)


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Re: 'poisoned' by Ted' or Run's statement (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 15:01:20 CST
We were forced to post it because he keeps lying about us EVERYWHERE he posts.

Of course dowloading something again and again is not illegal. We're not sueing him or anything. But neither he did contact us when he found out, even knowing we were down and it was BECAUSE of his wget.

5 days 'accidentally'? for god's shake...

And what DoS are you talking about? I mean, is someone DoSing xmule.org? Because I never said anyone to do it, neither I support that kind of stuff. it's ted's style, not our fault.

I don't think I have to tell everyone not to DoS anyone. We're posting DoS is bad, and everyone know is bad. People willing to DoS will do it regardless of what anyone say.

So don't try to NOw tell it's OUR FAULt that xmule is DoSed. Please.

P.S: I'm Kry, and I did not take anything 'out of context' because I don't posted that, neither I know where delta got the logs from. But I find hard to be 'out of context' someone saying he wget our site for 5 days.


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One thing I don't know untill yet. (Score: 1)
by plaenky on Sunday, April 04 @ 11:30:08 CDT
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Well untill now I was thinking amule.org was down because of your server change. If it was down because of this wget action I can only say Hopeseekr behaves like an Asshole in this Point.

And yes xmule.org was ddos'ed yesterday since the post about wget on amule.org. I have writen this ahead in this thread. And maybe you are right in the point that it changes nothing to point out that people should not ddos anyone, but to do this is also not wrong, but shows that you feel responsibily for your useres (Page-Visitors). I have not forced this from you, I was only asking about.

And I was not saying the ddos is amules fault, but it started since amule has the post. So see the connection between this.
(ready with this topic)


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Re: 'poisoned' by Ted' or Run's statement (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Sunday, April 11 @ 10:36:52 CDT
I am the guy who gave that IRC log. You can remember me since (I believe) I was talking to you on that same conversation at #xmule. You know very well that's not out of context at all. HopeSeekr was talking (flameing?) about aMule and wrote that. It's not out of context. I may post the _entire_ IRC log if you want me to.


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Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 1)
by Xaignar on Saturday, April 03 @ 03:15:34 CST
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I'm sorry to hear that you have decided to stop working on xMule, as I personally believe that both projects (xMule and aMule) could have gained a lot from competing against each other and through that, the users would have gained. But hopefully the xMule project won't fade in your absence, something which I'm sure that the remaining devs will work to avoid.

It is also sad to see how much grief the bad blood between the two projects have caused on both sides of the fence, now with your resignation as a result... Still, I wish you good luck in the future, both offline and online.

Cheers,
Xaignar -- another aMule dev




Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 03:42:27 CST
april fools...



Re: april fools... (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 04:32:25 CST
it's the 3rd not the 1st :_(


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Re: I quit! YAY!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 04:11:25 CST
Hi. First I'd like to say that unfortunantly I am in no position to help you. I study computers in an university (I can't donate money because I'm from Portugal. Try reading a bit of this country and you'll know what I'm talking about) and I know how to program but I only know those basic thing like making loops and reading/writing on files and stuff. If I could, it would be an honour to participate in a project like xMule because it's something that everybody uses. Second, if there are people using xMule it's because they like it, therefore, to them its better then aMule. Third, are they steeling your code? Well, you can't do anything about it because it's open source but the best way to prove that you are stronger then they are is to continue writing and improving xMule. You are one, they are many. Steel their code too. Fourth, the best way to attack is to get a good defence. Stop saying that aMule team is this or that. If someone asks, say that they are good. But prove through actions that you can be better or not. Fifth, don't ever, ever put xMule over your personal life. Think of it as a hobby. Try to get your life in a stable position and then start xMule. Sixth, don't do more than you can. You need a better server, right? Well, if you can't get one, too bad for us. Don't harm yourself because of us. Seventh, tell me how to get material to learn programming things like xMule and you'll have my full support to develop it.
Take some vacations but, don't give up...
Sorry for my bad english...
Best regards, HybrisPT!



Re: I quit! YAY!!!! (Score: 1)
by Pompei2 on Saturday, July 10 @ 10:50:23 CDT
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Yeah, I'm totally one with u HybrisPT ! You're right on every point ! I also hope that xMule won't die, please continue !


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Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 04:34:35 CST
I forgot to say one thing. This is for both, xMule and aMule... STOP making unfair competition... If you noticed, I didn't said that I liked xMule more than aMule... I'm only using Linux for one week or so... So I don't know wich one is better but, as I said earlier, I'm willing to help hopesekr to keep this project alive. But always, always with fair competition. And in those terms, programming is a lot of fun...
HybrisPT




Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 05:03:36 CST
u can't even now stop to lie, heh.

well, 1 week and ur back again ? always the same shit to get more popularity.

aMule doesn't steal your buggy code Ted,, we are able to code and work with eMule devs, u not ..

bye, i hope for always



Re: u can't even now stop to lie (Score: 1)
by plaenky on Saturday, April 03 @ 06:15:03 CST
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About what lies are you talking. Is there just one word about who uses who's code in Hopeseekers statement ahead ?
I can only suspect who you are, but i am shure you are one of the people that brought Hopeseekr to this point of resignation. So feel proud about it and please leave us alone here on xmule.org. You got your own webside to flame us ! (If it is online)


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Sight.... (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 06:25:54 CST
When I started working on xMule, we had a great comunity. Now, on aMule, we have an even bigger and nice team and users supporting. But, in any way, it's of course bad to lose an opensource project.

It's your decision and, yes, it would be bether for your health, you need a break from all this, ted, really.

A proof of that is you can't stop flaming about aMule even on that post. Saying we copy code( we do not, xMule code has the same (c) than when forked, and no single bit of code from xMle since I'm there), saying you took code from amule giving credit to it (which is FALSE, because all the endian code to work on Mac is taken from amule and not a single bit of code has credit given to aMule and the notebooks, which made us able to get rid of pure GTK code, have my (c) but you removed the (c) aMule Team).

We have not won neither we had defamed you except when you do like this: posting shit about aMule at ANY chance, even now. You insult amule, you insult amule developers, and you lie about xMule and aMule. You even flame about the look of the forums/webpage!!


You didn't try to make peace with aMule 6 times: you roughtly came to tell us how stupid we are, and that we should let you do the core and we can stick to the GUI. A team of 20 people developing a GUI while you do the core. There's even a poll on that were aMule devs and users told you... well, to leave us alone.


And that's what we were requesting for MONTHS. To leave us alone, ted PLEASE. on #wxwidgets (former #wxwindows), everytime you join... flame aMule and me. on #amule, you joined, changed topic do assholes, insulted us... etc. on our forums, you also insult us. On the SF support requests where you have NOTHING to do, you insult us. on your forum, you first moderate us so we cannot reply, and then lie about us. On your changelogs, you insult us.


so, do as you like with xMule development. but LEAVE US ALONE, PLEASE.



Re: Sight.... (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 06:26:33 CST
P.S: For those that don't know xMule/aMule background, I'm Kry.


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Re: Sight.... (Score: 1)
by plaenky on Saturday, April 03 @ 06:45:15 CST
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I only got one question. Where in HopeSeekrs post ahead do you read anything about copy code from to ... ?
Am I blind ?


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Re: Sight.... (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 06:58:34 CST
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If you support aMule you supoprt companies that make cheap products via sweatshops (e.g. you don't care how they get thier code or how they hurt others to get it).
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A direct reference to something he stated hundreds of times on the forum.


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Re: Sight.... (Score: 1)
by plaenky on Saturday, April 03 @ 07:06:47 CST
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Well, Ok, but it depends on how you read this, I think. Maybe I am a little bit blind. (awake since 35 hours ;) )


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Re: Sight.... (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 07:18:55 CST
I know the feeling ;)


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Re: Sight.... (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 07:22:02 CST
BTW, plaenky, what do you think about insulting the users before he leaves?

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You guys that are still here, you either are dirt poor or don't relaly give a shit either, cuz we get no support.
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Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 07:29:29 CST
Listen... Alll of you! I dont quite know about Emule or another companise but for some reason a guy who i also know nothing about has lost quite alot and all he wanted was support for Xmule! I dont pretend to understand all this but if it means that i can help get rid of an evil comapny then so be it. it may be late but i am trying to drum up support for you my friend, i will look up some more on this and see what im up against! Dont loose faith. And dont end yourself because of this. KEEP GOING! Im behind you!


Kyle Masters




Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 08:24:40 CST
I'm so sorry you quit.
I've been using xmule for the last 3 moths and I really like it.

But I underestand you must care about yourself and if developing xmule produces you so much pain you have taken the right decission.


I hope you get better,
jaume




Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 1)
by HopeSeekr on Saturday, April 03 @ 09:17:41 CST
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example:

I post a bug report for aMule, because I was viewing their code and i decided to help them out...it's the opensource way, you know? (viewing isn't the same as using but o well).

First i get:
[kry] As usual, you lie. STFU and stick to your client.

who then proceeds to join #xmule and does much the same.

Then some anonymous dev says "It will be reviewed", then deltahf flames me on the SourceForge request of the same ticket (cuz i wasn't for sure *where* to post it). Then another anonymous dev announces they have accepted it, while saying i was 'flaming them'. I just don't see how submitting a bug fix is a flame, but maybe others do.

http://developer.berlios.de/bugs/?func=detailbug&bug_id=1749&group_id=1296

Still, let's all chant the dogma "HopeSeekr is a terrorist, HopeSeekr is a terrorist", then you'll be on the "one side of the truth" as kry put it in an above comment :-)

Cheers,
Hope



Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 09:38:50 CST
i haven't read that.

but u know why this happens? cause you've always done like that.
i remember lots of times...lots..
i talked privately with u..and you were kind.
you wanted to leave xmule and join amule.

i've always trusted in men's intelligence.
but you joined the channel and started a wonderful flame with devs and so on....

discussions always finished with you saying "fuck everybody" and ppl banning u.
On Freenode that's always some ops that are blaming you on some channel...cause you're flaming against amule.
what amule has done to you?

since amule split xmule has improved a lot...guess how.
you should be happy of amule project!
if amule dies...xmule has no more sources to take code from.

No problem if u copy code. but leave copyright.
ok...no legal actions...we are only young devs with no money.

but this doesn't allow ppl do to what they want with amule code.

You wanna help amule?
ok..do a patch (not words...code) and sent it.

don't add nothing about projects or personal.

this is helping. Do you think are u ready to do this?
to code without blaming others or make ppl say "ted how good are u!".

no personal glory. no revenge. only C++ truth.

Hetfield


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Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 12:32:47 CST
Oh, Jesus.

(Kry here - I can't post with my nickname 'cos Im banned :))

Ted told me to join #xmule:

Mar 31 23:18:56 please join #xmule
Mar 31 23:19:05 I have no reason to join there, unless you specifically invite me

then:

Mar 31 23:19:12 --> You are now talking on #xmule
Mar 31 23:19:12 --- Topic for #xmule is The xMule Development Channel - http://www.xmule.org | http://www.xmule.org/files/Premake-1.6.1h.tar.bz2
Mar 31 23:19:12 --- Topic for #xmule set by plaenky at Wed Mar 31 21:29:24
Mar 31 23:19:15 please join #xmule
Mar 31 23:19:16 i invited him
Mar 31 23:19:19 so noone blame me
Mar 31 23:19:20 :)

And he wanted me to discuss publicaly a false bug report he did on our bug tracking system, about some code he can't even understand and flaming.

Sorry about my reaction, but I told you SEVERAL TIMES to leave aMule alone. You lied again on this post saying I 'proceed to join xmule' when it was YOU who told me to join (probably to flame now about how I joined).

We have 2 bug reports from you. BOTH are WRONG reports, made by the absolutely lack of knowledge of *mule code you have, so instead of making us lose time by searching unexistant bugs after telling us we're lame, assholes, we are scrit-kiddies, and so on. You should keep your ignorance private after you flamed us so much, or we would be forced to reply you that way.

Now I can tell anyone to check www.amule.org and the first news about HopeSeekr doing an 'accidental' wget 5 DAYS and making himself the 33% of the bytes downloaded from amule.org, thus our provider blaming us for the bandwith and forum was slow and then down for his 'accidental' thing.


Ted, again, LEAVE US ALONE. STFU, stick to your client, do as you like, BUT LEAVE US ALONE!!! You requested to join aMule development, and aMule developers don't want you there, you're dictatorial, unable to work with a team, and have no idea of the *mule code, as shown on the two 'bugs' reported. I guess the bad talking about aMule it's your vengeance.

I even spent time reviewgin your supposed bug reports. Maybe that was your true intention.

Pathetic.


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Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 12:41:10 CST
One more thing

Mar 31 23:36:35 i take on a new nick
Mar 31 23:36:39 no one knows it is me
Mar 31 23:36:41 i join amule team
Mar 31 23:36:44 is that possible?


For those that don't belive the above statement.


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Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 1)
by HopeSeekr on Saturday, April 03 @ 22:11:37 CST
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it's called *trying* to make peace...something that is *totally* unknown to a snake like you.

Alas, death is the only time that people are guaranteed to consider the results of their antipathy towards others. May you embrace empathy before you loose your mortal coil...it takes significantly longer to do so afterwards :-(


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Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Sunday, April 04 @ 06:53:08 CDT
Ted.... for god's shake. stfu, you are even difaming aMule on your 1.8.0 release.

And leave my life alone too. And stop insulting me.


There's no words to express the kind of scumbag you are.


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keep it professional (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 12:26:46 CST
If the boards & IRC are such a distraction then just drop them, and-or /ignore the bastards.
More coding less flaming, I say !!!
Compared to your "adventures" in real life, this xmule-vs-amule crap should be a piece of cake, c'mon!!




Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 16:01:06 CST
Hell, this whole thing is a soap opera. It's like two gangs are figting over a f.cking apple in an apple forest. I don't really care who is responsible for steeling code. These are GPL projects. The whole purpose to make things better.

Development was supposed to be fun. Grow up and get over with your egos, both side! Competition is always good, if both side quits being nasty kids. I don't really blame anybody specific. I blame *every* single developer who is flaming and who is just keeping silent about this fuss. There should be somebody with some sense!

It is always hard to see whos fault it is, as there is always two sides of the story. And it doesn't matter in the end if you have a good project. If ppl don't use yours, make it better.

HopeSeekr it is your life and it is your decision. But in the end we all loose if you quit. You should appreciate some other group is developing based on your code. But a suggestion, if you want to continue just stop wasing time on flaming. It really doesn't matter what you say, or do. Just prove that xMule is better by making it better. And don't forget, ppl don't like flaming guys. And stop asking money everytime. Let the ppl decide.



Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 16:10:21 CST
GREAT POST!!!!


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Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 17:10:04 CST
I specially like the part about 'Stop asking for money everytime"


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Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 1)
by HopeSeekr on Saturday, April 03 @ 22:23:32 CST
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Sorry for pointing out that development is never free.


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Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Sunday, April 04 @ 06:57:53 CDT
On your side. On aMule side it's free. I (Kry) don't spend a single euro on aMule, and I even got the wireless keyboard and mouse, and the motherboard donated by users.


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Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 17:05:30 CST
I'm sorry to read that it has gone that far (again).

Well, sometimes things like this happen. Nobody likes to get insulted and flamed by others, especially not devs about code.

Hopefully, the other devs, admins, moderators and users of the xmule project will carry on developing and supporting the client as there seems to have been some major improvements in the last months.

It would be a unfortunate lost to the community if they won't.

And if it's true that time heals wounds, both projects might be able to open their CVS, again, some day. A friendly and respectful competition has always been the best for Free Software.

Ted, you hopefully find a way to master your personality one day to be able to join a community peacefully even if not everybody shares your opinion. Nobody can be expected to do everything equally well, and I think the community regards your efforts for xmule and your coding abilities.

seneca



Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 1)
by HopeSeekr on Saturday, April 03 @ 22:21:41 CST
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This is from the same guy who incessantly asked aMule devs to stop flaming in xMule forums...then, while i was incapacitated, suddenly switched sides because they removed i18n and didn't know how to return it.

what happened?


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Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Sunday, April 04 @ 08:45:53 CDT
You have been gone for roughly one month without any notice, and then you posted that xmule is dead.

Back then, Kry asked me to change those GetResString() stuff, and that was a simple job. I18n wasn't removed accidently, it was merely disabled during the rewrite.

However, in the beginning, those "sides" you are talking about just existed in your imagination but your ongoing proclamation made them a reality. I'm sorry for your situation but that's the one you choose to have. If it would only be worth the effort, but your quest is pointless.

The only side I am interested in and the only one I ever choose is the one of the users of Free Software. Quite simple, IMHO.

seneca


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Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 20:07:14 CST
I started out on eMule for Windows - nice client and vastly better than the original eDonkey rubbish. But as I was always wishing to move towards the Linux side of things, I wanted, obviously, a Linux client. I was fortunate and lucky enough to discover xMule.

I had heard stuff about lMule, but seem to recall just having problems getting it to compile. xMule worked. It was good. I was happy. I downloaded a lot of shit.

And then I bought a Mac, which seems reasonable enough, and, better still, the Mac, according to xMule's very logo, is supported. Would it compile? Would it fuck.

At this point, some might point out that I should bloody well fix it myself - I must apologise, but I am one of those types that coders find incredibly annoying - a "user." Believe me, if I could code, I would be pitching in.

And not too much later, we get all this melodromatic crap from unThesis. First time it may have been valid, if a little over the top, but it was far too theatrical. Dude, if you really are considering a career move, try the stage - you are either totally insane or just have an arty mind (I hope the latter).

But damnit, xMule returns, still with the Apple in the xMule logo and still not working. I start to see flames about how this aMule client is so shit and how they steal so much code. You know what? I decided to give it a go. Last time I tried, it didn't work. But this time, after Stage Exit II, I am determined to make it work. From the comments, it seems plain that the aMule lot merely got a clue - they were just trying to escape a crazy and perhaps half-assed coder who, to be frank, needs to grow up.

I'm sorry to rant, but it's childish pettiness that really damages the reputation of open source. Leave the coding world be, dear - you belong somewhere else.



Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 1)
by HopeSeekr on Saturday, April 03 @ 22:20:34 CST
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In other words you give xmule nothign but crap and then join amule because amule gives xmule crap.

nice :-)


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Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Sunday, April 04 @ 06:54:34 CDT
Or alternatively, I used aMule and it worked on Mac where xMule didn't, so screw xMule.


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Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 1)
by HopeSeekr on Saturday, April 03 @ 22:22:33 CST
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You HONESTLY think aMule devs act more grown up than me? :-)

ROFLMY FUCKING ASS OFF

I might be insane, but you are just mean.


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Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Sunday, April 04 @ 07:26:00 CDT
I think you have proved my point with that childish response to my post. I have a 14 year old brother who is more mature than you.


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Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, April 03 @ 20:52:42 CST
Everytime I find a post by this guy saying he quits of he has problems he's requesting for money.... sucks



Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 1)
by HopeSeekr on Saturday, April 03 @ 22:17:03 CST
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well i'm always fucking dirt poor because i've been working on xmule 24/7.


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Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Sunday, April 04 @ 07:00:41 CDT
Then get a life and stop fucking up everytime you post


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Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 1)
by HopeSeekr on Saturday, April 03 @ 22:15:46 CST
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[quote]Ted, you hopefully find a way to master your personality one day to be able to join a community peacefully even if not everybody shares your opinion. Nobody can be expected to do everything equally well, and I think the community regards your efforts for xmule and your coding abilities.

seneca
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um...deltaHF and kry constantly tell me I need to see a doctor ... it's on the front page of amule.org right now.

When it comes to being mean-spirited and down-right destructive, they are far more vociferous than myself.

Does *any*one* want to point out a time where i have hurt kry as much as he has hurt me? Besides...why must they flame on my very last post?



Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Sunday, April 04 @ 07:01:57 CDT
There would be no flames if you stoped flaming aMule and us.


Anyway, I (Kry) REALLY think you need a doctor. What's so bad in it. You're mentally unstable, you already said it, and also DoSed our webpage.


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Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Sunday, April 04 @ 01:43:18 CST
Hey,

I'm not a new user of xMule and have used both aMule and xMule. And for sure the last aMule version corrupted all my downloads. But that left out of the game

I think HopeSeekr, you should first live _your life_ and make sure that everything in your life and with your friends and family is okay and then, if everything is okay, you can spend left-over time on opensource projects. I feel you have not done that and everybody really should do that. Real life before life online. Humans are social beings, we need friends and family and company. When you got that an a steady, stable life, go on programming.

Just my point-of-view but I think everyone should really consider this valuable information.



Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 1)
by Pompei2 on Saturday, July 10 @ 11:18:55 CDT
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That's also fully my point of view, first live your live, then HAVE FUN coding !


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FLAMEZZZZZZZZ (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Sunday, April 04 @ 04:09:15 CDT
Guys, this is no way to be talking to each other. I hope you're at least enjoying yourself with the flames, but don't waste your time with it... ;)




Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 1)
by rven on Sunday, April 04 @ 11:49:06 CDT
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Hope, im with u when u say that it might be anoying like hell to have the whole amule vs xmule shit. But listen to ppl here in the forum.... fuck amule. Let them post all they want about you! Who gives a fuck anyway.... And dont tell me that u give up becouse of some ass who tells u that u crashed amule.org. Let him believe whatever he wants to... Thats his problem!!
Anyway, re-think it all, and come up with a way of doing stuff without all the bs.
Well, hope, im here if u want to think this over... and im sure there r ppl who r willing to help u out with the support and u just get down to coding. Think about it!!

If you want to code, do so!!! and let someone else worry about the rest of the shit. Anyway, gtg so Hope 2 hear from u again!! RvEN




Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Monday, April 05 @ 14:00:25 CDT
tztztztztztz
xmule suckssss
amule rulzzzzzz





Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Monday, April 05 @ 14:23:07 CDT
ok, It's the better thing you can do. I know what did you do. 'cos the best election is a quick walk-away. we don't want you in the p2p-dev-scene. have fun with your life theo.



Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Thursday, April 08 @ 04:27:44 CDT
Go away and don't you ever come back!

You don't have respect for other people's work!


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Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Monday, April 05 @ 15:52:15 CDT
Life has lot of secrets, maybe you will explore a new one ,better than xMule :)

No worries, life is so simple to worry about a project




this has just gone too far... (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Monday, April 05 @ 18:29:53 CDT
Guys, this is just going too far...

to you amule devs = last time i heard things like doing "reply all" to deliver a personal message was really rude.
isn't this the xmule website ? why do you even care what he says about amule here ? do you intend to roam in every forum of the entire web to aggressively defend your client ?
come on! would you go to some guys house on the other side of town to tell him in front of his family to stop talking about you ??? it doesn't matter whether he's right or wrong, he's free to have an opinion. And as long as it's happening there, you're the ones intruding.

to you unthesis : seems to me you're doing the right thing. There are much better things to do with your time than fighting on a virtual scene. Especially if it doesn't make you happy.
You're obviously depressed. You shouldn't feel hurt by someone's post ! a grenade that blows your leg hurts. Cancer hurts. But flaming ? Go find real people and make real friends. You need a bit of offline fun in your life, dude ! cheer up!

to all the flamers : honestly, you're all wasting your time. And not only yours but ours too.
If don't like somebody or something - unthesis, kry, amule, xmule, the pope - then ignore him, or at least keep it private. More importantly, don't annoy everybody with your constant fighting. when you adress a community, do it to bring some useful contribution. Otherwise, go back to coding your project, care about your users and your community. Do your best and have fun. cuz this is what its all about. Fun !

- peace



Re: this has just gone too far... (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Monday, April 05 @ 20:59:09 CDT
When someone rules a newspaper and lies about other newspapers or about other people, defaming them and their work, you will be still defendin it? He's not talking at his house, he's talking PUBLICALLY and defaming amule.

In real life, people get sued for defaming others publically.


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Re: this has just gone too far... (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 06 @ 06:31:16 CDT
I see your point but sorry, i disagree. xMule.org is a place built specifically for xmule by a few people, so it's their "house" really. It belongs to xmule devs and fans. It's private, although free for anybody to visit.

newspaper ?? let's get some perspective here... in terms of number of readers this is more like the college billboard of a very small village most people never heard about.
Perhaps you come from the other small village across the river engaged in a typical rivalry, and you're really fed up about the insults. I understand that. But still, this is all a very small, unimportant subject and I still believe it's a waste of time.

Defaming on a large audience public communication channel is bad and should be banned. But you're never gonna sue a guy talking to a few other about how much he hates you. Besides, you should trust people to have their own opinion.

Anyway, i wasn't defending anybody, but merely stating that most people don't care about all this amule/xmule fighting and are fed up with it. Launch a survey in a newspaper if you want and you'll see ! :-)

- peace


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Re: this has just gone too far... (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 06 @ 16:39:35 CDT
ahyeah, you're right on the users story. But you have to agree too that dafaming people, attacking amule's webpage and lying users is not a very fair way to gain users and users should know.


Anyway! Let's hope peace (btw - did you notice he is back like the other 4 gazillion times he said he was out?)


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Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Thursday, April 08 @ 03:48:54 CDT
xMule is a v. good project.
What i want to say is that all the post with "amule .." should be deleted because it is an advertising, and they shouldn't make it on your website, with your money.
For those people who don't like the xMule - Pls. go away ! Nobody forcing you to use it. I like xMule very much and i'm gonna used!

Maybe some people who don't like p2p wants to destroy the ed2k network. And they starting with a new project that can be controled by them.

Don't bother reading their shit.

You see that a lot of people are visiting you website and are interested by new releases.
Not all know to compile or use the forums, but they use xMule from rpms. Trust me I know a lot of people.

Pls. continue to work at this project. I don't want to hear anything about aMule. I like xMule.

Sorry for my english, and hope you continue to develop xMule ! Good Day !



Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 1)
by ning116173 on Thursday, July 22 @ 11:10:22 CDT
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It 's true . I have been using xmule for a year and found it nice. I have never heard of "amule".
Many users are just using software, maybe they don't go to forums often. I 've only come here for the first
time,and I 'm looking for new version of xmule.


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Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Sunday, April 11 @ 23:52:36 CDT
a "quit". the 7. one?
ppl getting tired of it.. write better a book. i'll buy it then, for sure.




Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 1)
by ning116173 on Thursday, July 22 @ 10:39:58 CDT
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what the fuck are the #amules doing!
I think some of them are really bad guys. You should ignore their words.They're not true obviously, for these few men just want to beat you down.




Re: I quit! YAY~!!!! (Score: 1)
by egr on Tuesday, August 03 @ 08:08:25 CDT
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WTF? I just started to use xMule, never heard of aMule before
and now you're telling me that it is over?

bullshit, I don't belive it




I KNOW!!! (Score: 1)
by ubikas on Monday, January 17 @ 09:29:22 CST
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And I SAY thanks again. KEEP IT AS IT IS... People who care will find the TRUTH in your words. I quit xMule, just becouse it is not mature yet;(

I know... now, the OTHER SIDE.
AND THANKS,
for that





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